Payette Coalition Community Forum http://www.payetteforestcoalition.org/PayetteForward.html hourly 1 1970-01-01T00:00+00:00 RE: Draft November Meeting Notes http://www.payetteforestcoalition.org/pc_url_38743135 <p class="plain"></p><div class="plain">Wendy,</div><div class="plain">Steve affirmed your interpretation.  I propose we leave the comment where it is and I'll add the following: Note: this is not specific to the Mesa fire.  It is a conceptual comment that more spacing between trees/crowns in a stand and more openings should break up fuel connectivity and inhibit fire spread or intensity to some degree.  Important to realize that this is situational as high temperatures, winds, fuel moisture levels, etc. may reduce or eliminate effects of beneficial stand structure with regard to fire behavior."</div><p class="plain"></p> Paul_Litow 2018-11-20T19:17:55-08:00 RE: Draft November Meeting Notes RE: Draft November Meeting Notes http://www.payetteforestcoalition.org/pc_url_38742860 <p class="plain"></p><div class="plain">I've reached out to Steve to see what his intent was.  We were, in fact, talking about  Mesa Fire lessons learned when he expressed that thought.  <br></div><div class="plain"><br></div><div class="plain">On another note, I'd like to add the following bullet point under Steering Team elections to clarify that Ron is still serving.  "Ron Hamilton will continue to serve (his term ends next year)."</div><p class="plain"></p> Paul_Litow 2018-11-20T09:28:19-08:00 RE: Draft November Meeting Notes RE: Draft November Meeting Notes http://www.payetteforestcoalition.org/pc_url_38742562 <p class="plain"></p><div class="plain">I believe an item found its way into the section on "Lessons Learned from Mesa Fire" when it was part of a more general discussion about treating Management Prescription Categories 5.1 vs. 5.2 (restoration emphasis vs. commodity production).  <br></div><div class="plain">"Restoration treatments (which encourage stand variability) seem to promote greater resiliency compared to areas managed for commodity production (less stand variation, higher density)."</div><div class="plain">I think Steve made that point speaking generally, not with regard to Mesa Fire. The sample size is far too small in Cottonwood Basin to draw that conclusion. Looking at the map produced for the field trip, you will see only a handful of small units that had "Recent Harvest," and treatment in those units also included non-commercial thinning. More and larger units were non-commercially thinned, and both harvested and NCT units received prescribed fire last spring. <br></div><div class="plain">Perhaps the statement above belongs under Key Points from the LCBC discussion.</div><div class="plain">Thank you.</div><div class="plain">Wendy<br></div><div class="plain"><br></div><br><br><p class="plain"></p> Wendy Green 2018-11-20T04:35:16-08:00 RE: Draft November Meeting Notes RE: Draft November Meeting Notes http://www.payetteforestcoalition.org/pc_url_38741086 <p class="plain">The Forest Service changes to the meeting notes are right on.</p> Ron Hamilton 2018-11-17T15:34:37-08:00 RE: Draft November Meeting Notes Revision to November Meeting Notes http://www.payetteforestcoalition.org/pc_url_38740984 <p class="plain">Please note that the draft meeting notes were revised on Saturday morning at 9:00am.</p><div class="plain"><br></div><div class="plain">The initial suggested edits from the Forest Service are shown inline within the document itself (red).</div><p class="plain"></p> payetteforestcoalition 2018-11-17T08:13:38-08:00 Revision to November Meeting Notes RE: Granite Meadows Project Link http://www.payetteforestcoalition.org/pc_url_38739806 <p class="plain">There was a request at the PFC meeting for a direct link that could be forwarded to those interested in submitting a Granite Meadows Project scoping comment.  Here is the link:</p><div class="plain">https://www.fs.usda.gov/project/?project=54029</div><div class="plain"><br></div><div class="plain">The links to the Forest Service project webpages are also located on the <a rel="" link="" target="_blank" href="http://www.payetteforestcoalition.org/project-archive.html" class="plain">PFC Project Database page</a> , in the left column.</div><p class="plain"></p> payetteforestcoalition 2018-11-16T15:05:30-08:00 RE: Granite Meadows Project Link RE: Steering Team Nominations Open http://www.payetteforestcoalition.org/pc_url_38727524 <p class="plain">Please be aware that after some discussion and review with others I am withdrawing Frank Swartz name for nomination to the steering team. Frank agrees that is his preference also. Thank you.</p> Ron Hamilton 2018-11-06T16:34:11-08:00 RE: Steering Team Nominations Open RE: Steering Team Nominations Open http://www.payetteforestcoalition.org/pc_url_38726731 <p class="plain"></p><div class="plain">Happy Election Day, everyone.<br></div><div class="plain"><br></div><div class="plain">John Lewinski has agreed to serve on the steering team "if you will have me," he said--which is a refreshingly humble response, don't you think?  John has been reluctant to volunteer for steering team duty because he does not formally represent a defined group or organization. However, he is a knowledgeable and passionate outdoorsman who has dedicated the time and effort to get involved, learn about and support the PFC. I nominate John Lewinski to the PFC steering team.</div><div class="plain"><br></div><div class="plain">Wendy<br></div><p class="plain"></p> Wendy Green 2018-11-06T06:23:49-08:00 RE: Steering Team Nominations Open RE: Draft PFC Agenda - October 18, 2018 http://www.payetteforestcoalition.org/pc_url_38726456 Since this is a publicly accessible forum, it is important that you follow the standard protocol for using acronyms in documents: the FIRST time you use an acronym in a document, you also spell out the words for the acronym (so the reader knows what the acronym means). After that you can just use the acronym in that document. Its impossible for the public to understand what you're talking about. For example in this document you use: CFLRP, PFS, PA, WUI, and FS. Please consider following this protocol. Nikki Saleen 2018-11-05T09:06:51-08:00 RE: Draft PFC Agenda - October 18, 2018 RE: Thank-you Rachel http://www.payetteforestcoalition.org/pc_url_38726429 <p class="plain">Thank you, Rachel, for your steady presence on the PFC.  Hope things work out well for you.  --Diane</p> devansmack 2018-11-05T07:46:06-08:00 RE: Thank-you Rachel RE: Steering Team Nominations Open http://www.payetteforestcoalition.org/pc_url_38726428 <p class="plain">Hi All: I have a question/proposal regarding steering team nominations.  Since so far there's only one nomination, and the only "definitely open" position is Mac's, it seems smart to prioritize filling Mac's position first, and then Lin's if we receive another nomination.  Since Lin is only away temporarily, he could still continue to serve, just maybe not in such an active role for the next 4 months.  </p><p class="plain">Regan</p> Regan Berkley 2018-11-05T07:44:03-08:00 RE: Steering Team Nominations Open RE: Granite Meadows Draft Proposed Action: PFC Committee Reviews http://www.payetteforestcoalition.org/pc_url_38725547 <p class="plain">Hi, Rick. Thank you for addressing grazing in your Veg subcommittee notes even though I didn't make the call. Thanks for crafting some language. One thing I would do differently is to not make the tie to the grazing permits. My preference would be to say that grazing in these project areas would be "consistent with the grazing NEPA and ongoing grazing program." Changes to permits don't require changes to NEPA unless they were to go outside of what has been analyzed. For example, I suspect that targeted grazing would require a change to a permit but should be well within any grazing NEPA analysis that has been done. </p><div class="plain"><br></div><div class="plain">Sorry for my slow response to you, but I have been on the road a lot over the last two weeks.</div><div class="plain"><br></div><div class="plain">Thanks again.</div><div class="plain"><br></div><div class="plain">Frank</div><p class="plain"></p> Frank Schwartz 2018-11-04T19:20:43-08:00 RE: Granite Meadows Draft Proposed Action: PFC Committee Reviews RE: Draft Agenda - November 15, 2018 http://www.payetteforestcoalition.org/pc_url_38725417 <p class="plain">Iíve been told that the RCA monitoring topic will only take a half-hour instead of an hour.  If there are no objections, Iíd like to use the time from 11:30-12:00 to: 1) review public Scoping comments to date and consider submitting a comment letter based on that review, and 2) the PFC and Forest brainstormed ways of encouraging public input during Scoping at last monthís meeting.  Does the PFC want to develop concrete actions it will take to do that and, if so, what are they?</p> Paul_Litow 2018-11-04T08:14:38-08:00 RE: Draft Agenda - November 15, 2018 RE: Draft Agenda - November 15, 2018 http://www.payetteforestcoalition.org/pc_url_38724436 <p class="plain">Lawson is available.  If I put the LCBC discussion 1st thing in the morning and pull some time from the Mesa Fire salvage status discussion, would that work for everyone?   <br></p> Paul_Litow 2018-11-02T08:08:04-07:00 RE: Draft Agenda - November 15, 2018 RE: Thank-you Rachel http://www.payetteforestcoalition.org/pc_url_38724432 <p class="plain">Thank you Rachel for your participation in the PFC.  Best wishes for all of your future endeavors.  </p><div class="plain">Mike</div><p class="plain"></p> mparadis 2018-11-02T07:35:00-07:00 RE: Thank-you Rachel RE: Thank-you Rachel http://www.payetteforestcoalition.org/pc_url_38724184 <p class="plain"></p><div class="plain">Rachel,</div><div class="plain"><br></div><div class="plain">First, thank you. You have made the PFC better and stronger. Second, I am sorry to see you go!  Third, I hope your next endeavor is fun and fruitful, whatever that may be. And, finally, we'd always welcome you back to the coalition as a very well-informed citizen!</div><div class="plain"><br></div><div class="plain">All the best.</div><div class="plain">Wendy<br></div><p class="plain"></p> Wendy Green 2018-11-01T12:38:42-07:00 RE: Thank-you Rachel RE: Thank-you Rachel http://www.payetteforestcoalition.org/pc_url_38723985 Thanks so much for your participation and wisdom. I hope whatever new position you will have will bring great rewards. We will miss you. Lin Davis 2018-11-01T06:25:43-07:00 RE: Thank-you Rachel RE: Thank-you Rachel http://www.payetteforestcoalition.org/pc_url_38723494 <p class="plain">So sorry to lose you Rachel. Thanks for hanging in there for 8 years and through some tough times for you. I wish you nothing but the best.</p> Rick Tholen 2018-10-31T19:11:24-07:00 RE: Thank-you Rachel RE: Draft Agenda - November 15, 2018 http://www.payetteforestcoalition.org/pc_url_38720623 <p class="plain"></p><div class="plain"><br>It looks like there is a time slot for a LCBC discussion (among other topics) at 2:15 pm. I think it would be good to have Lawson join us for that discussion via phone. Perhaps we can put Lawson and the LCBC discussion up first at 2:15. If folks agree, can Paul invite Lawson to join us?</div><div class="plain"><br></div><p class="plain"></p> John Robison 2018-10-30T16:55:19-07:00 RE: Draft Agenda - November 15, 2018 RE: CFLRP Future Scenario http://www.payetteforestcoalition.org/pc_url_38719763 I think this is a good statement for continued PFC involvement, and captures the difficulties and possible attenuation of restoration projects without CFLRP funding. Lin Davis 2018-10-30T07:47:06-07:00 RE: CFLRP Future Scenario